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General Discussion / Re: 2013 DRAFT Who should we target?
« on: January 25, 2013, 06:39:05 pm »
sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-dolphins/fl-omar-kelly-commentary-0123-20130122,0,4760939.story

Time for Jeff Ireland to take a few bold shots

Dolphins GM has been fairly conservative running the franchise. Can he afford to keep the same approach in 2013?

By Omar Kelly Sun Sentinel  6:02 PM EST, January 22, 2013

"You miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take." - Wayne Gretzky.

MOBILE, Ala. – Identifying talented players isn't Jeff Ireland's issue.

The Miami Dolphins' General Manager knows what dynamic football players look like. He can tell you about their footwork, their catching radius, their instincts, the aura that permeates from their presence.

He's able to single them out privately, before the draft, raving about talents like Joe Flacco, Colin Kaepernick, Jimmy Graham and Jon Beason.

That's not the problem. The problem the Dolphins have had for the past five seasons is this Ireland-led front office hasn't always been willing to do whatever it took to secure those dynamic playmakers.

With the exception of winning a 2009 bidding war for former CFL standout Cameron Wake, trading for Brandon Marshall and signing Karlos Dansby as a free agent in the 2010 offseason, the Dolphins haven't been able to pull the trigger on elite talents.

They've typically gone the safe route and fell short because they've landed average players, and the proof of that is the bulk of Miami's roster, which might possess four present Pro Bowlers, but only one (Wake) plays a premier position.

With $46 million in cap space and nine draft picks - five picks in the first three rounds – Ireland knows he's got "ammunition" and that it is time to make some bold moves.

It is time for Ireland to take some calculated risks that can produce big returns because this could be his last season running the Dolphins front office.

He's one of South Florida's least popular sports figures, and owner Steve Ross' patience has been worn thin by four straight losing seasons.

Based on Ireland's tone on Tuesday it is clear he realizes this could be his final shot.

"This is the year that you got to do something," Ireland said about the offseason, which the Dolphins set up by being frugal last offseason and trading away talents like Marshall and cornerback Vontae Davis. "We're in a very good position to utilize some of our cap space to bring in some veteran players on our football team, and we're in a very good position to bring in some young players from a draft standpoint."

"It's got to be a good mix, and we plan to mix it."

The way I see it, Ireland's under pressure to take and make a game-winning shot in free agency and the draft because this team can't wait on the Michael Egnew's and Olivier Vernon's of the world to blossom.

Ireland needs a proven, polished, dynamic receiver and seam threat tight end now, and even though coach Joe Philbin would prefer to build the team through the draft he better get with the program too because history tells us a new general manager likely means a new head coach isn't far behind. Just ask Lovie Smith, Hue Jackson, Mike Mularkey and Pat Shurmur about that.

Either way South Florida and Dolphins fan base win because the franchise will either improve by luring and drafting the type of dynamic players that help change an organization, close the colossal gap on the New England Patriots, the reigning AFC East power. Or those demanding change will likely get their wish in 2014 if the Dolphins produce yet another losing season.

"I feel like I've been aggressive where I need to be aggressive," said Ireland, who hasn't drafted a receiver before the third round. "Conservative? I think there have been some decisions that have been smart."

Calculated is a bit more accurate, fitting, but risk is in the eye of the shot taker.

"We've got to do what we've got to do this year," Ireland said before warning Dolphins fans they'll be excited by the moves made this offseason if Miami's plans come together. "The decisions that we made up to this point to get us to where we're at with our cap space and draft picks, that's all by design. We have a clear vision of how we're going to help this football team."

Unfortunately, seeing the shot, and then taking it doesn't guarantee you'll make it.

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General Discussion / 2013 DRAFT Who should we target?
« on: January 15, 2013, 07:29:32 am »
I gotta run to the sto but later on I'm gonna start c&p some articles and mock drafts to git the ball wobblin' .........

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The franchises fall is 100% on Wayne. Sure Ross is a dolt and a dullard at "football team owner." He wants to be a good owner but his motives may not be pure ie his need to schmooze with the celebs and VIP's but H Wayne Huiz knew who and what Ross was when he sold the team to him but with HWH money came first, power a close second. HWH did not care what happened to the team after he sold it. He just wanted to be known  as the "good owner who stayed out of the coaches way. He wanted to call all the shots; Hire and fire the coaches - to have or not to have a strong GM. Getting Shula to step down was his only correct move and then it all went downhill after that. He went wrong when he hired JJ. Instead he should have hired the very best GM & football expert available and then gotten out of THAT GUYS way. Let HIM hire the coach!.But as we all know that was NOT Wayne and thats why we are what & where we are today. I just hope Philbin improves as coach and we are very wrong about Ireland. Either that or Ireland gets lucky. Skill and knowledge and business acumen are important as a GM but in the NFL, finding talent can be a hit and miss thing where luck can play a big role. You cant rely on luck alone but then you cant be successful w/o it.

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Resource manager? That's great! Welding is a greasy grimy bunch of hard work breathing acrid smoke, occasionally getting a hot spark in your shoe. AHHHHHHHHHHHH! Plus ya gotta lift the sh!t ya gotta weld, then prep it. Twins are 7 already? WOW!

Waxing sentimental ..... It's kind of nice knowing Dolphin fans around the country and even the globe. Thanks Al Gore!

 I started posting at the Miami Herald shortly before they changed their posting format and right after we lost to the ravens 20 -3 on 1-13 2001. That means about 12 years now. Another wow.


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 I looked at NE's roster last year and saw Hilliards name listed in a separate list titlet "players who played at least one game as a Patriot."

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You make some good points Chuck. Lets see what Irehole does with his draft picks. WHat he does for a back up QB b/c I doubt Moore is going to want to ride the pine next year. I think Moore was a better QB and should have been allowed to start in the first game. Not that he's Marino but we weren't bad with him in the saddle in 2011. Seeing Tannehill perform in 2012 If I am GM I draft another QB in the first 3 or 4 rounds but I am really just sick that Ireland is still GM. Sick. i just read an article that ross says he wants stability in his org and thats why irehole gets the nod. I guess we are just doomed. 

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"""Dolfans want General Manager Jeff Ireland fired. They do not want Ireland making the decisions on how to spend the free-agency money that they have this off-season, plus they do not want him running their draft."""

If ya read the Sun Sentinel columns and the posts underneath them there are a 30 to 45%  groupof Ireland apologists/supporters out there. I don't support Ireland by any means he's hit a few decent 2 and 3 baggers but he's short on imagination and creativity. C Wake was a home run even I'll admit that but not getting a WR last off-season is a solid FAIL! It's unconscionable by my book. He could have and should have done SOMETHING to fix the hole left by the traded Marshall. He did NOTHING. Naane is = to nothing!

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"""In 2012 Ireland drafted Ryan Tannehill with the #8 overall pick. I felt that the roster had (has) so many holes that Ireland needed to trade down to add extra assets, and if he had to he could land Tanny later in the draft (NFL GM’s were not clamouring to draft Tannehill. All due respect to the young man, but he was never the #8 pick in that draft."""

I love that paragraph. I like Tannehill simply because I have hope. I know hope is a dangerous thing or so I've been told. I guess he'll get at least one year with some better receivers and perhaps a better line to aid him in his improvement. A better run game will augment his QB rating a lil' bit; wouldn't hurt. I really hope he does improve.  But for him to improve the accuracy needs a lot of work. Confidence is very important in that department. I think he needs to gain some forgetfulness b/c after he threw a pic he would be way too overcautious and THEN his game suffered.   GO MIAMI!


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:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: BAD NEWS Chuck! ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
NFL Rumors: MIAMI DOLPHINS NOT SEEKING NEW GM
(not that this isn't/wasn't predictable but.....)

The Miami Dolphins have a massively important off-season ahead of them. They last won a playoff game in the year 2000, and their fan-base is at an all-time high for anger/disgust/frustration.

Dolfans want General Manager Jeff Ireland fired. They do not want Ireland making the decisions on how to spend the free-agency money that they have this off-season, plus they do not want him running their draft.

Word out of Florida is that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross met recently with Mike Giddings Jr. of Pro Scouts INC. There are some that feel the meeting did take place, and there are others who insist that there was no meeting. I would say that even if there was a meeting it could have been just Ross picking Giddings’ brain and getting player personnel evaluations from a person who is respected in the field.

It does look like Ireland will run the Dolphins 2013 draft.

Word is that Bill Parcels ran much of Ireland’s first Dolphins draft in 2008. The best player landed that year was #1 overall pick Jake Long who may be done in Miami, but he was very good while he was a Dolphin (there is certainly a chance that Long does re-up with Miami, but that article is for another day!). Of the other eight players drafted by Miami that year, Chad Henne had the best NFL career (yikes).

Ireland had mixed results in 2009. He drafted Vontae Davis and Sean Smith to be the #1 and #2 cornerbacks going forward, and also Pat White to run their wildcat. Davis was underwhelming overall, and Miami has a big decision to make regarding Smith as he is a free-agent (again, that article is for another day…Recently I did get a Reggie Bush free agency article up, and it is HERE).

White did not work out, nor did Patrick Turner, but the middle-late rounds did produce Brian Hartline and Chris Clemons. Hartline is, you guessed it, a free-agent so he is another player we will monitor to see if his Dolphins days are done.


 The Miami Dolphins have a massively important off-season ahead of them. They last won a playoff game in the year 2000, and their fan-base is at an all-time high for anger/disgust/frustration.
 
2010 may go down as a great Dolphins draft. Surely improvements are needed from all of these guys, but they have all shown they have the potential to contribute on the NFL level. Jared Odrick, Koa Misi, John Jerry, Nolan Carroll, and Reshad Jones were five of Ireland’s first six picks in ’10.

2011 landed Mike Pouncey, but it was full of swing-and-misses like trading up to draft Daniel Thomas, Edmond Gates, Charles Clay, Frank Kearse, and Jimmy Wilson.

In 2012 Ireland drafted Ryan Tannehill with the #8 overall pick. I felt that the roster had (has) so many holes that Ireland needed to trade down to add extra assets, and if he had to he could land Tanny later in the draft (NFL GM’s were not clamouring to draft Tannehill. All due respect to the young man, but he was never the #8 pick in that draft).

The rest of last years draft was full of ups and downs. Jonathan Martin is going to be a legit NFL offensive-lineman, and Olivier Vernon will have a chance to build on his 3.5 rookie sacks. The jury is still out on Lamar Miller, but if I was not a fan of his from the University of Miami days then I would likely consider him a poor prospect.

Michael Egnew, Josh Kaddu, B.J. Cunningham, Kheeston Randall, and Rishard Matthews all look like they are not legit NFL players/talents.

Word is that Ireland’s job is safe, and he will run Miami draft in 2013. Miami has five picks in the first three rounds so they are set up to add legit talent. Dolfans are hoping Ireland will be significantly better than he has been lately.

http://www.rantsports.com/nfl/2013/01/04/nfl-rumors-miami-dolphins-not-seeking-new-gm/?o3zo1bDuOLVMCpBj.99

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Bellicheat probably saw the same crap out of Henne as did we (we as in Chuck and Dan).  Normally his ego would have told him to grab Henne and try to make us look bad by making Henne into a guy like Matt Cassel was in Brady's absence but BB couldn't keep CH on the roster b/c their Brady understudy is Ryan Mallet. Wish we would have drafted him but...Oh well

Anyway it isn't like Bellicheat didn't pick up any 2011-12 Phin castoffs. Lex Hilliard was on their roster at some point and Will Allen who was a Dolphin DB for 6 seasons played for cheat this past year. Ya figure "cheat" no longer needs to snag cast off Dolphins like he did Ninkovich and hornswaggling Welker from us* to better his team but by god he's still trying. We used to play them tough at one time but we have lost like the past 12 or something.

* We got a second and 7th round pick for him and drafted Sampson Satele and Abraham Winston Wright

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Wright was drafted by the Miami Dolphins in the seventh round of the 2007 NFL Draft. The picked used to select Wright had been acquired earlier in the offseason in the trade that sent wide receiver Wes Welker to the New England Patriots.

Wright spent much of the 2007 season on injured reserve with an injury. He was waived by the Dolphins on May 5, 2008.


    * April 29, 2007: Drafted by the Dolphins in the seventh round (238th overall) of the 2007 NFL Draft.
    * November 7, 2007: Placed on season-ending injured reserve with a knee injury.
    * May 5, 2008: Waived by the Dolphins.


Great waste of talent Dolphins. Is it any wonder why were up sh!t creek?
Well I got a new thread to start. \end rant

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First of all, I heard you won heman so congratz are in order.

Nothing to play for? Hmmmmm....... So we played the scrubs and said show us what ya got?........
Again: Hmmmmm....... We were pretty beat up I know that; after the 49er game we were like an infirmary. We beat Buffalo simply b/c I think Gailey had either lost the locker room after the huge loss they took from Seattle and or their players simply mailed it in.

Maybe Philbin is a pretty smart guy who knew his job was safe no matter what the teams record so by doing things like predictably running on first down he made it easy for NE to win. Not that they needed the help but Philbin insured that by losing we picked a few slots higher in the last week of April.

Sparano didn't have that option as he knew after the 0-7 start that his job was on the line. Actually I went looking for a 2011 Dolphins 'schedule and results' and came across a pretty good site. neew to me anyway...........

http://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/miami-dolphins/results/2011

Oh and congratz also on your Pats big win over the Dolphins ;-)

Now you know I am just ribbing you kiddo so don't go getting all shook up.

Do you still have your welding gig? You had twin babies some time ago right? They OK? How old now?

My welding skills are not what they used to be. I still have a stick welder and my burnin' outfit but don't often get a chance to weld. I did weld some galvanized 1¼ pipe to replace the rotten wood handles on me post hole diggers tho. I remembered to used a fan.  ⓪ⅴ⓪

 

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And that isn't even the most depressing aspect of the whole damn thing. The fact is unless we can find a way to beat New England and they ARE the team to beat in the AFC EAST we are FACKED! AND I doo doo mean Facked! It's not just Brady either. It's Bellicheat first and foremost. Right now he is what Don Shula used to be in the prime of his career. Like what Bum Phillips said, He can take hisns and beat urines and he can take urines and beat hisns. So as long as he remains their coach it's  likely we'll be playing second fiddle to them.

Solution It's simple get a shaman to put a death curse on Bellicheat. Hey I know this guy named Dan. He's known as "Doc VooDoo" in some circles. Some just call him "The Fiend."                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

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Just makes ya wanna PUKE! Doesn't it?

cue sound of vomit hitting tile floor in the facility(with echo factor).

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Why did we go back to running on first down?

This strategy was responsible for our mid season losing streak. We had a productive offense at times up until the Colts game. Hit and miss at times but then the Colts seemingly stifled us. Then all you heard was - What happened to our 5th ranked running game? We can't get any yards on the ground! So right then and there Philbin decides that he wants to stop taking what defenses give us and start pounding the ball on first and second down. Chuck knows that I've had this rant before. That was when our losing streak started.

It ended when we started going back to the dink and dunk throwing the ball on first down a lot(but not always. But not trying to force square pegs into round holes. Like what we started out doing today.

Oh well this long and winding road is at end. As I said in the other NE thread, It's probably better we lost today. I wish we hadn't gotten shut out but it happens.

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Well I have played in a league with no team D and 2 defensive players(any pos.) Never played in a keeper league though. What the hell, yeah, put me down. I'll be the first alternate.

I guess Ireland is gonna be the guy that picks the players in 2013. The fans are stuck with him. If he does good we get better...... married

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btw Good win by the minutemen, Tough break for Riv. Yeah the Eagles were definitely reeling this season. I don't know what their problem(s) are-were but sometimes, as was the case with both Shanahan AND John Fox, coaches just get burned out with a franchise for whatever reasons. They both went to other clubs and seem to be flourishing.

Well I hope we can pull one out this Sunday.

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