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Dolphins’ coaches work with Chad Henne in apparent violation of NFL rules

Posted by Michael David Smith on February 28, 2011, 7:53 PM

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/28/dolphins-coaches-work-with-chad-henne-in-violation-of-nfl-rules/
The Miami Dolphins could find themselves in hot water with the league office today, after quarterback Chad Henne revealed that he has been working with new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll and quarterbacks coach Karl Dorrell — in apparent violation of NFL rules.

  • nce we signed Coach Brian Daboll, I tried to get into there as quick as I could to learn the offense,” Henne told the Miami Herald. “I’ve been meeting with him for the last month now. I feel pretty comfortable with what he’s teaching and what the offense is going to be.”


But as the Herald‘s Armando Salguero points out, NFL rules don’t allow Henne to work with Daboll, Dorrell or anyone else on the Dolphins’ coaching staff. This is the same rule that prohibited Rams quarterback Sam Bradford from working with new offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels.

Henne also said he’d like to become so knowledgeable about Daboll’s offense that he could run his own minicamp during the looming lockout — which would open another can of worms, as players who are active in the union (including Eric Winston on today’s PFT Live) are increasingly speaking out against players engaging in unpaid practices while the owners are locking them out.

Now we wonder whether Henne will be hearing from his union, and whether the Dolphins will be hearing from the league office.
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If this is true it's incredible. But it can't be true can it? If it is true it means that these idiots are so dead set on making Chad Henne work that they will go to any extreme to do it. Even if it means conequenses. Goodell could take away a draft pick or picks from us. Just what we need. If that happens heads need to roll. Dolphin fans are already up in arms with the way this franchise has been run since Wannstedt took over from JJ - - or even before.

I said enuff. I hope there is some explanation that will we aren't culpable so we don't have to lose a draft pick.
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Henne's meeting with Daboll, Dorrell apparently violates CBA contact rules

By Armando Salguero
The NFL has warned "several teams" that players are not to meet with coaches and receive playbooks during this time in the offseason, the Cleveland Plain Dealer reported over the weekend. The league has sent the Dolphins no such warning.

But perhaps it should.

That's because Chad Henne, Miami's presumed starting quarterback, told The Miami Herald today he's been meeting with new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll for the last month in preparation for player-organized workouts that would replace any offseason workouts or minicamps lost to a possible lockout or other circumstance related to the uncertain and unresolved collective bargaining contract.

Henne, apparently comfortable with the new playbook, would presumably run the offensive portion of the workouts. To be equiped for that task, Henne had to learn portions of the playbook, or at least significant portions of it. And to do that, he likely had to study the darn thing.

Regardless, even meeting with Daboll to discuss strategy and plays is apparently out of bounds, according to the Plain Dealer. And that definitely happened.

"I took some vacation time, maybe a week or two here or there, but once we signed Coach Brian Daboll, I tried to get into there as quick as I could to learn the offense," Henne told the Herald's David J. Neal. "I've been meeting with him for the last month now. I feel pretty comfortable with what he's teaching and what the offense is going to be about just in case -- who knows what's going to happen this Thursday? -- that I can pass it on to the guys and help the guys out."

Henne is quoted extensively in the story talking about the new offense and how it is quarterback friendly and a mix of the New England and New York Jets offense. The story does not make the conclusion that Henne violated any rules. It does not even consider the topic.

But I do.

According to the Plain Dealer, coaches and GMs at the NFL Scouting Combine were told by league officials that existing rules forbid meetings with coaches and the dispensing of playbooks until the official start of offseason conditioning programs on March 15. The league is saying the offseason rules were a concession to the wishes of the players union, which did not want coaches pressuring players to meet with coaches until the off-season programs kicked off, the Plain Dealer reported.

The Plain Dealer report specifically addressed meetings relative to strategy. Players and coaches are allowed to meet to discuss other matters, such as contract issues and to simply handle introductions and other business until March 3, it has been reported.

An NFL spokesman could not immediately be reached on this matter. A message left with a Dolphins spokesman has not yet been returned.

Update: A Dolphins spokesman declined comment and added he would not even confirm that Henne had indeed met with Daboll -- although the spokesman was present today when Henne said he met with Daboll. I find that amusing for some reason.

Update 2: Whatever advantage the Dolphins gained (if any) is done because the league year ends March 3rd anyway and everyone knows and understands there is to be no contact between players and their teams after March 3rd.

Update 3: Veteran St. Louis scribe and radio host Howard Balzer passed along the portion of the NFL's clarification of the Collective Bargaining Agreement that shows the contact between Henne and Daboll to be out of bounds.

The current collective bargaining agreement, which doesn’t expire until midnight March 3, has strict rules regarding what players can do before the beginning of offseason programs. The NFL has made this clear to clubs by way of written clarification. That clarification reads:

 "Prior to the start of off-season programs, players are permitted to use the Club’s facilities on a voluntary basis subject to the following rules: (i) such players may not receive per diem payments or workout bonuses of any kind and may not be paid or reimbursed expenses for travel, board or lodging during this period; (ii) such players are not permitted to participate in organized workouts, practices or meetings of any kind; (iii) the Club’s strength and conditioning coaches may not direct such players’ individual workouts, but may supervise use of the weight room to prevent injury, correct misuse of equipment, etc.; and (iv) such players may not be directed or supervised by position coaches during this period."

Obviously, the quarterback meeting with the offensive coordinator is a meeting of some kind when the CBA clearly states meetings of any kind are out of bounds.

Balzer also tells me via e-mail that in St. Louis, quarterback Sam Bradford has not met with his new offensive coordinator for this reason.

Update 4: Henne didn't just meet with Brian Daboll. Quarterback coach Karl Dorrell was in the room also at Dolphins training camp. That is similarly a violation of the CBA. And this is not just speculation. This is straight from Henne's mouth.

Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2011/02/the-nfl-has-warned-several-teams-that-players-are-not-to-meet-with-coaches-and-receive-playbooks-during-this-time-in-the-offs.html#ixzz1FJTNjqNx
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Henne you naive SOB. What a....... This guy is beyond words.
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Old goody boy Chad should have been quicker to read the rule book like he did the play book.
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Old goody boy Chad should have been quicker to read the rule book like he did the play book.

No doubt. Luckily the NFL decided to let us off the hook but Henne should have kept his stoopid mouth closed. Besides, all the practice in the world isn't going to offset him being a klutz and having poor pocket presence and going down when someone even bumps into him. Or not knowing when it's better to run
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NFL won't punish Dolphins for meetings

By Tim Graham

http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/26534/nfl-wont-punish-dolphins-for-meetings

The NFL will not investigate or discipline the Miami Dolphins for holding coach-player meetings that appear to violate rules under the current collective bargaining agreement.

Dolphins quarterback Chad Henne revealed Monday that he, new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll and new quarterbacks coach Karl Dorrell had been getting together frequently to go over strategy.

Under the current CBA, which is mere hours away from expiring, players are forbidden from such interaction until March 15.

The NFL warned teams about following the rules, as detailed by Sports Illustrated and the Cleveland Plain Dealer in recent days. But spokesman Greg Aiello e-mailed Palm Beach Post reporter Ben Volin to say the league wouldn't take a hardline stance on the issue.

"There are rules that have been in place for many years for the time period between the end of a season and the beginning of offseason workout programs," Aiello wrote. "They are designed to protect the players and give them some down time. It's the interpretation of Article 35 of the CBA."

Article 35 deals with offseason workouts. Punishment for violations of this article is a fine for the head coach.

A league memo distributed to teams last year stated prior to March 15 "players are not permitted to participate in organized workouts, practices or meetings of any kind" and "may not be directed or supervised by position coaches during this period" at the team's facility.
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